Let me start with my personal beliefs. First, I believe homosexuality is a sin because that's what the Bible tells us clearly. The Bible references homosexuality nine times. Four of those times are in the Old Testament (all verses NIV):
- Genesis 19:1-25, which is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Genesis 19:5 says, "They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'"
- Judges 19:22-30, a similar incident. Genesis 19:22: "While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, 'Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.'"
- Leviticus 18:22: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
- Leviticus 20:13: "If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
- Romans 1:24-28: "Therefore GOD gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about GOD for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, GOD gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of GOD, so GOD gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done."
- 1 Corinthians 9-10: "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of GOD? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of GOD."
- 1 Timothy 1:8-11: "We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed GOD, which he entrusted to me."
- 2 Peter 2:6-10 "if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— if this is so, then the LORD knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority."
- Jude 1:7: "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
1) JESUS never talked about homosexuality. True. But HE never talked about a lot of things in the Old Testament either, because HE didn't need to. The Jewish nation had GOD's law already. Also, JESUS talks about a proper marriage in Matthew 19:4-5: "'Haven’t you read,' HE replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?" So JESUS is on the record for the definition of marriage as a man and a woman. Also, we don't know for sure HE never brought up the subject, as John 21:25 tells us: "JESUS did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written."
2) The Old Testament has lots of stuff considered sins like eating red meat and pork that Christians do without raising a fuss! Again, true, but that was the Old Covenant with GOD. Under JESUS, we have a new covenant, one that specifically tosses the dietary laws. JESUS says in Matthew 15:11: "What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them." Romans 14:17 says "For the kingdom of GOD is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
(FaithFacts offers some more analysis.)
Now let me take on another argument made by gay-rights supporters: "Why is it so wrong for two men or two women to love each other?"
The answer is, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, as long as we're talking about love outside an erotic context. Many favoring gay rights point to 1 Samuel 18:1 for support: "After David had finished talking with Saul, Jonathan became one in spirit with David, and he loved him as himself." However, the Bible is talking about brotherly love, not erotic love. Reading on through verse 4, we see: "from that day Saul kept David with him and did not let him return home to his family. And Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself. Jonathan took off the robe he was wearing and gave it to David, along with his tunic, and even his sword, his bow and his belt."
We have more than one type of love: platonic, which is a friendship sort of love; erotic, which extends into the romantic and sexual; and agape, which is an all-encompassing "higher love" -- an affection for people in general and a desire to sacrifice for them. You can argue Jonathan's love for David as the agape type.
Coming back to what I believe, as someone who loves (agape) and wants to serve GOD, I cannot see gay marriage -- including the sexual component -- as something other than sinful, and I speak as someone who has homosexual friends and colleagues. You think I like taking this position? JESUS told us living for HIM wasn't going to be easy in John 15:18-21: "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated ME first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted ME, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed MY teaching, they will obey yours also. They will treat you this way because of MY name, for they do not know the one who sent ME." Living for GOD requires sacrifice, and that includes sacrificing the easy or popular mindset of the time if it doesn't square with GOD's commandments.
Let me tell you what I do NOT believe:
- I do NOT believe the Bible tells us to act violently towards homosexuals, regardless of that verse in Leviticus. JESUS taught us to love sinners, in the agape way. As for that Leviticus verse, the context of that was GOD's commands to Israel in that time to purify itself and rid itself of sinful practices found in pagan nations surrounding them. If Israel was going to be GOD's chosen people, it had to walk the walk, even in the extreme sense. GOD also had another motive with the Old Testament laws: to show us how it was impossible to live perfectly within HIS will. Boy, did we ever need JESUS!
- I do NOT support that crazy cult church in Kansas that demonstrates at military funerals saying soldiers die because of homosexuality in America. JESUS says in Matthew 7:15-17: "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit." You can certainly see from the actions of this so-called church, it's not bearing good fruit.
- I WILL NOT refuse to work alongside people who are gay, nor will I openly condemn my gay friends, nor will I name and shame them publicly by stepping onto some moral high horse for all to witness. I consider that acting like a Pharisee. The Bible says in Romans 3:23: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of GOD." I don't play the game of "this sin is worse than that sin." A sin is a sin is a sin, and as Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of GOD is eternal life in CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD."
So now I come to the question, should government recognize same-sex marriage? The Bible tells us governments are an authority recognized by GOD in Romans 13:1-2: "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which GOD has established. The authorities that exist have been established by GOD. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what GOD has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."
So clearly governments have a responsibility to act within GOD's will. What happens when they stray outside that will? You can look through the Old Testament and see numerous examples of Israel suffering under the rule of evil kings and leaders who strayed from GOD's law.
What about separation of church and state? Let's be clear about what it means. Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man and his GOD, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." He was talking about keeping government from messing around with churches, not keeping GOD's principles out of government.
Here's where it gets complicated: clearly, government is within bounds to prohibit gay marriage. But technically, it's also within bounds to declare homosexuality in general illegal, which has been done in the past, but is now largely a relic of our past. Our authorities don't go around rounding up homosexuals -- something Hitler's gestapo did. I don't want that. Most Christians, save for those radical fringes, don't want that. GOD doesn't want that -- in truth, HE'S within rights to round ALL of us up for our sins!
So how can government justify banning gay marriage when it doesn't ban gays? It doesn't have to condone the decisions for same-sex couples to marry. It doesn't have to make gay marriage equal with straight marriage. If a same-sex couple wants to live together, I'm not going to call for government to break them up. But just as our governments don't give marriage benefits to straight couples living together out of marriage, I say they shouldn't feel obligated to do the same with gay couples. I don't consider that to be discrimination; I see it as acting in accordance with what GOD is asking governments to do.
Again, I'm not saying I LIKE THIS. GOD's principles are not there for our enjoyment. I know some of my friends are going to disagree with me adamantly about this, and that's fine. I don't hate you. I don't want to. I am not on a mission to preach and rail against homosexuality, and if you know me, you know that. But when the question is put to me, and I have to answer it and take a position, I'm going to take GOD's position, because I love GOD and want to serve HIM, even if that makes me unpopular with my friends or with the world. That's life. That's Christian life.
Yes, I've changed my beliefs since I wrote that 2004 post. But one thing remains unchanged. In 2004, I wrote:
If you think about it, we don't even need gay marriages to degrade straight ones. We've done that already. We've done it through a 50 percent divorce rate. We've done it through "triple-a:" adultery, abuse, abandonment. We've gotten into commitments we weren't ready for, and we refused to let somebody talk us out of them because nobody else is allowed to be judgmental when we're in love.So we've all got work to do. Just like the Bible says, "For all have sinned..."
4 comments:
You really explained things so well. I agree and I do because I think that's what God teaches also but that isn't very popular. You explain yourself in a very humble way. None of us has any grounds to be self-righteous..we all sin. Thanks for sharing these thoughts.
I would like to point you at a site: http://religioustolerance.org/ ; specifically, I would like to point you at this page: http://religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm .
For example, is Genesis 19 talking about all homosexual behavior? Or is it talking about raping strangers for the purpose of humiliating them?...
And it is entirely possible, for Leviticus 18, that the original Hebrew isn't talking about male/male sex so much as sex *with someone who isn't Jewish*.
My Most Honourable Melissa,
I realize Genesis 19 talks about sexual immorality in a broader context, but I included those passages for the purpose of context compared to the Bible's other mentions of homosexuality. Regardless of the Genesis and Leviticus passages, the Bible elsewhere makes it clear homosexuality is sexual immorality.
Thanks for reading and Be Blessed!
Christopher
Thank you for putting so eloquently into words, my thoughts on this issue. I will be sharing this with others.
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